Dispenza at LIFE

Dr. Joe Dispenza is one of the leading voices in a healthcare paradigm based on connecting people to health rather than disconnecting them from sickness. Recently, he was in Atlanta facilitating one of his Progressive Workshops and was kind enough to drop by his alma mater, Life University, to speak with students about how chiropractic can connect people with health.

Just before he spoke with students, Dr. Dispenza and Life University chancellor, Dr. Guy Riekeman, took a few minutes to catch up – and both graciously agreed to allow TCL to film their conversation.

In it (video below), Dr. Dispenza shared how his work with quantum connectedness augments chiropractic care and actually connects people with their futures and their potential for greater health and wellbeing…and how the work Life University is doing supports that vision of health.

For a full transcript of the conversation, please scroll below the video.

Dr. Riekeman:               So what roles does chiropractic play? You know, we have this prison program at Arrendale to end recidivism…because education seems to stop recidivism, takes it from 70 percent down to basically zero. But they wouldn’t let us start with chiropractic, right? We started out with an associate’s degree, now a master’s degree and now they’re open to having nutrition and chiropractic come in. So…the way we do this, is a very chiropractic thing…


Dr. Dispenza:                …the correlation is very strong. There’s three kinds of stress – physical, chemical and emotional – and three kinds of balance – physical chemical, and emotional. Get two out of the three of those in order and the third one always comes around. So, psychological and emotional stress is the hardest indicator to overcome because you have the traumatic stress…or the physical stress…and then you take drugs, that’s a chemical stress, but it always winds up as an emotional stress. So, teaching people how to regulate internal states independent of the conditions of their external environment, is true change. So breaking that down and giving people the skills and tools to be able to make those changes and know how to bring coherence in their heart and brain seems to produce a skill…and people are more conscious when they’re in the zone than out of the zone.


Dr. Riekeman:               …I’m going to ask you a comment, right? When we were doing the Octagon, the think tank? The second year…well, the first year was on vitalism, it became really obvious that we couldn’t have a discussion on vitalism without having a conversation on the nerve system. I think you were at that, right?


Dr. Dispenza                 Yeah. I was at one of them, yeah.


Dr. Riekeman                Yeah. And one of those statements that came out of that from someone, one of the papers, was that we are our nerve systems. And that everything in the body is there for one reason and one reason only, which is to support the nerve system, to keep it alive and healthy, as it goes through its process of conscious evolution. Your response to that…?


Dr. Dispenza:                True, and if you look at the neocortex, which plugs us into 3-D reality, the neocortex is shaped and molded from knowledge and experience. People perceive reality people how the brain is wired for people to have emotion and feel. So basically, because the brain is a record of the past – and emotions are chemical residues from past experiences, most people for the most part are viewing their lives through the lens of the past. So, how can we teach people to begin to change the brain to no longer be defined by the memories the past, to be defined by a vision of the future…and then emotionally condition their body to be in that future. Since the environment signals the gene, and experiences from the environment produce emotions, you can signal the gene ahead of the environment, and begin to biologically have the person become [holier?] with leadership or health or whatever it is. So breaking that down is just what we’ve been doing for the last few years…


Dr. Riekeman:               Successfully.


Dr. Dispenza:                Pretty well, yeah yeah yeah. And some of the measurements have just been really off the charts and really surprised me and our team…just…never recorded [before] in the history of neuroscience.


Dr. Riekeman:               So how many of seminars are you doing a year right now?


Dr. Dispenza:                I would say somewhere around 45.


Dr. Riekeman:               OK. And, how many people because I hear these incredible numbers…which I’m really happy that they’re like that.


Dr. Dispenza:                Well, we’ll be in Germany next week for an advanced workshop…they’ll be 1500. We’ll have all of our scientific team there, measuring everything. So, they’re big events.


Dr. Riekeman:               Nice. It’s nice to see a LIFE grad, chiropractor…. You know, when I was talking with someone the other day because…there’s two levels, right? On a really egotistical level, I look at speakers in other professions and I look at the lineup of speakers you can get in chiropractic…for nothing, right? You’ll pay someone $50,000 to come speak who has a book out on some subject. You get a chiropractor who’s a way better speaker, they’re lucky on a weekend seminar if an Association covers their expenses. But on the other level, I’ve never seen a chiropractor with our principal, which is obviously way bigger than just an office, and patients. It’s a universal principle. But I’ve never seen a chiropractor be able to make the transition out of the profession into the broader general public. You may be the only one that I’ve ever known.


Dr. Dispenza:                Well, I’m still a chiropractor.


Dr. Riekeman:               That’s what I mean…you’re a chiropractor but you made the transition to have an audience bigger than a chiropractic audience.


Dr. Dispenza:                Well I mean let’s assume that health is the expression of innate intelligence or expression of a force or an intelligence through us. And I think that chiropractic is a great way to express that intelligence. And also the person walks back into their life and perceives their life on the same level of mind. The emotions that are created cause the body and brain back into the past and the symptoms and conditions re-arise because [of that thought?]… so then how do you go to the next level of a vitalistic model of living? Where you start off connecting innate intelligence every day and how do we do that? How do we suppress neocortical functions and begin to change brain waves, begin to change heart function, and actually have that intelligence express itself through them and the [side effect] produces biological changes so that a person knows that, they walk into their life. And, not only are they perceiving their life differently but they’re healthier as a result of it because they’re connected to that intelligence? And that’s…the model that has come out of my experience in chiropractic.


Dr. Riekeman:               Right. Which is the universal model.


Dr. Dispenza:                It is.


Dr. Riekeman:               We don’t own the nerve system.


Dr. Dispenza:                Exactly.


Dr. Riekeman:               And, plus you’re really smart. {Laughter} I know, I know you’re really smart. You know we try to talk to docs all the time, I guess, for lack of a better term, rebranding the profession from bones and spines to nerves, right? And, doctors, when you say the them, ‘Hey, we only do spines because that’s where the nerve system runs through, if it ran through your nose, they agree with that, and then they go home and buy bent pens and, you know, puts spines on their cards. Somehow we’ve got to get the public to see this isn’t about backs, it’s about nerves.


Dr. Dispenza:                I think there’s a great information right now, so readily available and because of it, so many models are beginning to collapse because people don’t need an authority, they need information, and people are taking their power back. And I love that because now people are not accepting, believing and surrendering to an outcome without analyzing it. Because of that, people are making more informed choices and chiropractic just has to have a solid foundation and solid principles, which just part of our aesthetic. I think it’s happening. I think there’s a division going on and more people are crossing over to that idealism. I think the quality of chiropractic has to improve. I think that there has to be a standard of excellence that is required because if there isn’t and a person goes to a chiropractor and doesn’t get the right treatment as referred from a physician or a medical doctor, the outcome is that the doctor’s not going to refer again because he’s right, she’s right; they didn’t get the type of care that they anticipated. So I think that standard of…


Dr. LaMarche:               As we were just walking across campus you are saying how thrilled you were that you’d referred so many students to Life University and you mentioned to me as we walked into the chiropractic building that you were really happy with the results those student have had and the fact that some of them are in practice now.


Dr. Dispenza:                Yes, some of them are in practice…and are doing well and that’s because they stick with the vitalistic principle and don’t dispute, you know, the scientific basis for subluxation. You know, you can’t you can’t quantify innate intelligence, you can only measure the effects. And that’s the cool thing there.


Dr. Riekeman:               We’re glad you’re here.


Dr. Dispenza:                Happy to be here.


Dr. Riekeman:               I always always feel like when you come here, it’s homecoming.


Dr. Dispenza:               I was saying to Gilles, ‘I think I was here four years ago’ and he’s like, ‘When?’ I go, ‘I think they were kind of finishing [Lyceum Park] the amphitheater’ and was like, ‘Oh that was way more than…it was like you were playing Ohio State in Rugby…


Dr. Haag:                      That was when I had him speak for LIFEforce.


Dr. Riekeman:               So that would have been five years. That would have been…2010? Around there?


Dr. Dispenza:                It’s probably seven years ago but I just remember that the rugby team was playing and they beat Ohio State 120 to 7 or something like that. They have the second straight….


Dr. Riekeman:               And the next year they won 84 to nothing. So I went down to the coaches, one of those Woody – um, who’s the guy from Michigan? – Hayes. He’s firey, and like screaming at the guys. So I went down afterwards and I said to him. I said, ‘You know. why do you why do you come down here and play us?’ I said, ‘We love it because we love the publicity, we’re playing Ohio State…’ and he goes, he was a really nice guy off the field, and he goes, ‘I tell the boys when we board the bus in Columbus that they’re going to lose. But I tell them they need to see what rugby looks like at the next level. {Ah, that’s awsome. And he initiated, right?]. That’s right. Yeah. We love our rugby team. Five national championships, each year, are available. And we won four of them last year.


Dr. Dispenza:                I can tell you, 32 years ago, we were winning back then, too. [laughter]


Dr. Riekeman:               Yeah, yeah, yeah… The women this year at the CRC won the national championship and they set a new record; their first three matches, they outscored their opponents 189 to zero. [I’m not surprised at all] That’s right. And they’re playing Penn State. They’re not playing dogs, you know. [That’s great.]. Yeah it’s cool. Anyway. And you’re going to be with us in Rome…


Dr. Dispenza:                Yeah. I’m looking forward to it. Easy fun.


Dr. Riekeman:               The schools going to open up there in April ’19. We’ve got the facilities now. While you’re there, we’ll have a reception…


Dr. Dispenza:                All right! And then I think two times ago, maybe it was the last time I came…you were just opening the student clinic; I was there when you cut the ribbon. You and I drove down in your car…Oh, the Outpatient Clinic!


Dr. Riekeman:               Wow. We did that. That was probably…2007. Yes.


Dr. Dispenza                 Yes, that was the time before.


Dr. Riekeman:               Yeah. Then you were here for Assembly one time. And you were here for a LIFE Vision one time. I’ll tell you one of my favorite things and I talk about it all the time. A picture you had of the nerves reaching out and making a connection and forming new pathways…I then I launch into, ‘You are your nervous system your skin is the largest neurological structure. So when you touch someone, it’s…your nerve system…the bigger connection…and the consciousness of the universe is going up…


Dr. Dispenza:                And we now know that you don’t even have to touch…


Dr. Riekeman:               Really? Well, too bad, because I like to touch them…it’s an excuse to go hug all the students in the class…


Dr. Dispenza:                Well, you can, but our research shows that you actually don’t; you can generate a field that can entrain another person’s field…


Dr. Riekeman:               I’ll tell you one of the coolest things I’ve heard. We were in Australia with the Rubicon Group and Bruce Lipton was talking and I could never reproduce this but the concept behind it was he was talking about how there are quantum leaps through evolution and it all has to do with the ability to handle information. So, he builds from, like, a gene? And when it finally had the ability to connect and communicate, all the little individual pieces, it then became a gene as a unit, right? And then the gene, when it found ways to communicate…to create community…[Dispenza: the organelles became a community]. Exactly! And, then his last thing was that the Internet is the way now, that Millennials are going to be the source of this, but the Internet is the way…it’s the new nerve system and the whole species is going to make a transformational leap as a community.


Dr. Dispenza:                I would consider the internet a quantum field and the nervous system is the hookup. A field of information.


Dr. Riekeman:               It was very cool. I know you have to go talk to students, so…


Dr. Dispenza:                Is it time?


Dr. Riekeman:               We’ve got to release you to them…They’re all here to touch you.


Dr. Dispenza:                So, what’s up for LIFE these days? What’s next for you guys?


Dr. Riekeman:               We’ve got the clinic going downtown. From that we’re going to spin off a thousand clinics in the United States – the standard you’re talking about. We’ve got the school in Rome that’s opening up, the school in Hong Kong that’s right around the corner. And then we’ll be in mainland China shortly. We’ve just opened up clinics in a place called Haiphong mainland China. So that will be what this clinic is here, it will be the source of a thousand clinics across China. So anyway, just working. I get to work every day…


Dr. Dispenza:                The last time you and I hung out in your car, driving to Atlanta, and we were talking about vision and what it takes to realize…and I remember we were having a conversation and I said, ‘I think it’s easier to lose your vision than to keep it…and you did a great job with the inspiration…so congratulations.

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